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Post by Victor on Jul 24, 2004 16:26:03 GMT -5
Always good to get on the admin's side early - God knows what I might say in the future to get my butt booted! Kidding! Well, I consider myself a musician but I can't claim to be an artist. So, I think it's cool you're creating besides just playing! Anyway, I'm taking lessions from a classicaly trained guitarist - although his range of styles is quite extensive. I've been working on flamenco technique using some of the Juan Serrano books. Now I'm getting into some jazz to work on improvisation (maybe that will break me into the creative realm). So, I'd be curious to hear what all you're playing. Don't know if this is the correct place in the forum.
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Post by Adam Solomon on Jul 24, 2004 16:53:51 GMT -5
Very nice! I'm getting a classical guitar teacher, too, FINALLY starting lessons next week...he knows some rasgueados, too And this is definitely the right place in the forum for that !Yeah!
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Post by Victor on Jul 27, 2004 8:24:49 GMT -5
I think having a classical teacher is a good thing. Good to get some solid technique beside all the fun embellishments in flamenco. When I was looking for a teacher I called all over town and couldn't even find anybody who was trained in flamenco. There wasn't even a flamenco guitar to be found! And the books available for flamenco technique aren't that great. I mean, they cover the basics but you really can't learn them just reading the description in a book. Fortunately my teacher had enough exposure that at least he knew how they were done. Anyway, it's fun stuff - frustrating at times but fun!
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Post by Adam Solomon on Jul 27, 2004 8:53:41 GMT -5
Same here--the closest flamenco teacher I could find lived 45 minutes away in Brooklyn :\ Where do you live, out of curiosity?
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Post by Victor on Jul 27, 2004 13:13:09 GMT -5
I'm out here in Colorado Springs - population around 400K-ish, but apparently not too much "flamenc-ing" going on. I don't even think there are any clubs here that are into flamenco dance. I'm not interested in dancing myself, but where there are flamenco dancers there are problably flamenco guitarists! Anyway, Denver is a much larger city, but about an hour drive. Might have to find out what sorts of "flamencishness" is going on up there.
I would have guessed there'd be more flamenco teachers out in your area - being such a large and multi-culteral city
I've read some things on the internet that make me think most people in the "traditional flamenco" crowd don't really like the "nouvea flamenco" movement. My teacher isn't exactly an OL fan but he digs people doing different "fusion" styles - so that's really the kind of person I want to work with.
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Post by Adam Solomon on Jul 27, 2004 13:30:28 GMT -5
That's pretty cool, that your teacher digs that stuff I'm not actually in NYC, where I'm sure there's flamenco teachers galore, but about a 40 minute train ride away on Long Island. So, I've got a classical teacher (as it turns out, my first lesson with him is in a few hours!) coming over, and he'll teach me some of that stuff, as well as a few rasgueados he knows, and we'll see, maybe one day we'll both find flamenco teachers Or, better yet, private tutoring from OL? I'd move to Santa Fe for that!
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Post by Victor on Jul 27, 2004 13:45:39 GMT -5
Cool - have fun at your lesson! Mine is actually later today too - working on the jazz improv today. It's so frustrating because I understand it conceptually but my execution is... well, what's worse than sucky?! Yeah, wouldn't that be cool if OL held workshops like some of the classical masters do? Of course, a private session would be even better. Heck, I'd probably just want to sit there and watch him play for a while!
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Post by boris on Jul 27, 2004 14:29:28 GMT -5
Maybe I should try and find out where my next Flamenco guitar teacher would be... ;D One day to go? No, maybe there's one in Munich, so: 2 hours.
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Post by Victor on Jul 27, 2004 20:02:20 GMT -5
Hey Boris, are you a musician (or at least a wannabe musician like me)? Actually, I'm not aspiring to be a professional - just for fun! So, how long of a trip is it to Spain from where you live? I think Juan Serrano teaches at one of the universities in sourthern California. So, if I wanted to study flamenco with a master that would be a little closer than Spain.
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Post by Adam Solomon on Jul 27, 2004 20:16:37 GMT -5
Ohhh, where is that? I want to go to Caltech, that's in Southern California Assuming I get accepted there, which is a BIG "if"
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Post by Victor on Jul 28, 2004 7:46:29 GMT -5
I hear Caltech is an excellent school! (Not really known for their "School of Flamenco Arts", but I take it that's not the point of going there. ;D) Anyway, Jaun Serrano teaches up at USC Fresno - an hour or so (?) north of there.)
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Post by Adam Solomon on Jul 28, 2004 12:17:07 GMT -5
Caltech's probably the best science school in the country (competing with MIT), and that's what I want to do...though they do teach flamenco there And yes, I noticed JS is teaching at Fresno...sounds great for the people there!
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Post by boris on Jul 28, 2004 15:33:52 GMT -5
Ah, you've touched one of my open wounds, Victor! Maybe I'm a wannabe wannabe musician. My life hasn't allowed me to get my hands on whatever instrument (just the usual youth stuff). Yes, you may argue that's never a reason + I couldn't answer. To be honest, I have no idea what I am. I go to operas (+ classical concerts) in Munich quite often. I don't like the acting, I ADORE the orchestra. I sit on the places where you either can't see the stage (just the orchestra) or can only listen. I love listening. It's always fun to figure out all the instruments + to follow the notes... What I love most is when the violins play pizzicato... So that's what I enjoy most what OL's music is concerned besides dreaming / creating images with your inner eye: to turn the music louder and listen very intensely. Amazing. Spain -- nearer than a lot of the German cities. I'm faster in Castillia La Mancha than in the town where grandparents live (which is in the south of Germany too but in another region).
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Post by Victor on Jul 29, 2004 9:23:12 GMT -5
Boris, it's never too late to start! There are certainly examples of many great musicians who didn't start as young as Ottmar. In fact, I didn't pick up guitar until age 35 - definitely an "old fart" in terms of taking up an instrument. I had actually considered learning guitar for years but thought I was too old - but I'm glad I finally did because it's become one of my greatest joys in life!
Anyway, I understand your love of going to hear a live orchestra! There's nothing like live music - you actually feel it go through you - much different than just listening to a CD!
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Post by Brad on Aug 22, 2004 4:13:19 GMT -5
Kinda wish I was taking lessons, oh well. Ive been at guitar for around 3-4 years. I do wish I started when I was younger..I began at 15 or so now im 18. I know that is young, but I mean started when I was 10 or so. But ive been self teaching guitar and drums, now I took up bass and soon to be keyboards...Ill post some stuff when I finish writing the songs and gettin my recording stuff. Will be in a month or 2. But when I finish I will be sure to post it up.
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